I’ve been wondering if anyone would be interested in reviving the journal club. There have been quite a few interesting papers on hydrogen-oxidising bacteria lately, and I’d love to discuss them with others!
I was thinking we could start with this recent paper from Guo’s group that compares in-situ and ex-situ electrolysis: https://doi.org/10.1002/aic.70004
If you’re interested (and would like to be added to our Zotero group), please let me know! Would 9 pm UK time on Mondays still work best for everyone? Perhaps we could meet once a month instead of every two weeks, so it’s a bit more manageable.
I am very interested in a journal club and discussing papers on bioreactor design like this one. Monday at 9PM UK works for me and I would be happy to do every two weeks, but I can adjust to whatever works for everyone else.
Nice! I think if we can get three or four people interested, we can have a good discussion. How about it @Martin , @danwchan and @CamDavidsonPilon ? Anyone else?
Definitely up for it. 9pm on Mondays wouldn’t be my top choice as I have an early set meeting on Tuesdays, but if 9pm’s what works best for everyone else, I’ll be there.
Thanks for thinking of me. Yes I can do 17:00 (EDT) on every other Monday. How long do you think we’ll meet for? And please add me to the shared Zotero group. I’m danwchan there. Excited there is some energy to meet up and chat about papers!
I can’t figure out a way to synchronise my local Zotero library (including attachments shared by authors that wouldn’t be legal to publish online) with a shared Zotero group. I have however created & invited you to a shared Zotero group: Zotero | AMYBO Journal Club and I have shared my personal favourite Subcollection here.
Thanks Martin. I connected your Zotero group through your invitation. The papers that were already discussed looked interesting, so I will take a look at those.
I didn’t see a copy of the paper: https://doi.org/10.1002/aic.70004 Gerrit recommended and I couldn’t find a free copy. Should I buy one?
@Martin I tried adding the paper to the new shared Zotero group, but it seems there are some permission restrictions that prevent me from just sharing papers from my own collections, and if I manually create a new entry in the shared group I can’t add file attachments to it?
Did anyone have any luck uploading the paper? I tried emailing the author last week for a preprint, but got no response. I just signed up for DeepDyve’s free trial and I can read it online but they charge more for a PDF download than the original journal. I guess I will read online with DeepDyve for now. Any other suggestions?
There’s a bit of a philosophical issue here. I’m very much against closed access journals, as I think that all publicly funded research should be published in publicly accessible journals. As such, going forward, I think we should boycot discussing non-open access papers in the Journal Club.
An additional problem with sharing copies of papers online is that the copyright owners (that’s the multinational journal publishers, not the authors [who generally sign over copyright ownership when they publish them]) could legally sue us for doing so. If we only have open access papers in our AMYBO Journal Club Zotero, that won’t be a problem, as we can easily share links through it that everyone can access.
I strongly agree about closed access journals and publically funded research. I am OK in cases where academics feel they need to publish in specific closed access journals for prestige reasons, as long as they also make a preprint available publicly or on request. How do other people feel?
I completely agree that closed-access journals are problematic, especially when research is publicly funded. I sympathise with why academics sometimes feel forced to publish in them, and truthfully, that was a part of why I left academia.
I’m not sure that an AMYBO boycott of closed-access publishers would shift the needle, though I support the sentiment. That said, I don’t feel strongly either way about restricting ourselves to only open-access papers.
For a private journal club, I don’t think we should let publishers like Elsevier dictate what we can or can’t read together. As long as we’re not distributing papers publicly, discussing them privately seems reasonable.
That said, IANAL, and I absolutely see the appeal of being able to share everything - papers, notes, discussions - out in the open. Working only with open-access material would make that much simpler and avoid any grey areas, so I’m very open to that approach as well.